You are building a flagstone patiojust use stone. We do have what is called shaker sand which is a combination of sharp sand with some pea gravel mixed in (pea gravel that was smaller than normal and was screened out from the normal pea gravel. Thank you for the responses. Probably not if it's as thick as you said. Ill Probably go with your suggestion of screenings or DG. Stone dust/decomposed granite would work well in the dry months, but in North Californias rainy season..Im just concerned that the trenches have concrete at the bottom, so the stone dust would have no way to dry out, for months at a time. Find someone who specializes in dry laid flagstone work. !Thanks in advanceMurphy. Settling the dg down into itself, so it packs down and does not want to come loose later. Id just power wash the whole thing., some joint material may bust loose just from the water.Then Id take a large flathead screwdriver and start prying out joint material. Ive never studied it, never used it for a client and been unable to study its utility over the yearswhich is a major omission on my part. And reallymaybe make the drainage saw-cut, then fill in a couple inches with road base type gravel. If you used screenings as both the leveling agent and as the joint filler, this is no big deal. 1. I never thought about the problems I would encounter using small stones on a dry-laid patio. ( said with a Japanese accent):). 1. plastic grid tiles. For more information, please see our Replace joint material with a mix of topsoil and gravel or stone dust. I particularly appreciate the advice on killing any weeds that get in there with hot water, vinegar or pulling them by hand vs using Round UP. Whether you're looking for a step-by-step guide on fixing an appliance or the cost of installing a fence, we've here to help. -moss. I might get a bag and experiment with a small section, maybe at the start of the driveway. Its important to compact it thoroughly with a heavy-duty roller. Are there certain colors light or dark? Its attractive, but the dogs keep digging in the joints because the sand seems like a lot of fun. It appears that the base is a sand mixture, not concrete. Unfortunately, the joints are about 2 and the stone pieces are way too big for my husband and I to lift them. Hello: I just read your article regarding polymeric sand use, thank you for your thoughts on this. Visible from the road, near blue Mountain Ski Resort. If a project interests me I can be convinced to travel. If you purchased plastic edging..just return it to lowes. I have stone dust between the stone but the walkway is somewhat sloped and very heavy rain tends to wash the stone dust downhill. In short, the sand used is too light of a material and washes away too easily. Very stylistic and attractive stone fitting, very beautiful and interesting contoursI know its a bummer having to re-do some of your work, but this patio is going to be amazing, and real soon too. How many inches would you do the compacted aggregate base? Have written about replacing mortar joints in a couple of articles. Thank you. Basic advice can be free but you worked hard and long to get those skills and knowledge. Wait a minutethis cavity is 18 inches deep? pressure washing will definitely break screenings/decomposed granite loose from the joints. Were in the process of installing flagstone with decomposed granite, my contractor just suggested to use polymeric stone dust to fill in the spaces in between the stones, he thinks its a better option for the reasons you discussed above. My front walk is flag stone set in concrete. Im doing a small extension of a patio leading to a path about 200x18. Spread it liberally on top of the pea gravel then rake it in just under the surface. Polymeric sand, in the case of larger jointsis just even more likely to fail. Flagstone: what to use, sand, cement, or gravel? In a few places where pressure washing has removed the soil, I filled the joints with the rock screening you recommend. Im glad we didnt go with polymeric sand! Anything with d-limonene. I have two areas to fix. The cobblestones..1 inch gap sounds large. We dug eight inches deep, used broken concrete chunks, and then filled the voids with #411 limestone gravel, (1 1/2 inches to fines), and then #10 limestone screening on top. We were afraid a bigger pest i.e. Thanks for your colorful commentary and your insight (with years and years of experience). moment ie; finding this website, we had just completed installation of a flagstone patio upon which the contractor used hundreds of bags of polymeric dust (Gator Dust). Im hoping you might recommend something. We want to go with a flagstone patio around the pool. Thanks again! Thank you again and Best Regards! Small voids may be left underneath your paving unitsespecially if you are using irregular natural stone. Fact is that you simply can not use polymeric sand as a replacement for taking your time and doing the job right. Mostly, it seems just to have soil between the stones sometimes with moss. If not then feel free to contact me via emailI know a guy who is awesome at this type of work! Perhaps the stone dust/screenings in your area are different then what I have access to. What I use is stone dust AKA screenings. Will take longer to install, but can be made to look real nice. I think your solution is the answer. Digging and tamping and rakinghard work!). I have put 2"x4" around the border of the exercise yard to keep the gravel from migrating out of the enclosure. Bear with me here I dont know a lot about it but have you ever thought about using glass marbles, crushed glass, fish tank gravel in a more vibrant color something that would be a little more creative? Ive been researching decomposed granite and want to use that but cannot find a place to buy it. I then took a blower and carefully blew away the very small amount of dust that accumulated on the open surface of the flagstone as a result of the vibrating process. Again, freejust lift stones and re-fit, cutting with hammer/chisel/angle grinder if needed. Thanks for such a thorough reply. Im not worried about your base very much if crushed stone has already sat there for years. And you were obviously very meticulous too. Related content: dry stone spheres by Devin Devine. The 3/8 crushed basalt is the right stuff. Yea, buy a few brick, cut them, do it right. 1. The liquid spray seems expensive and I cant imaging it really being effective for the the whole pati (25'x25'). Also, I lived in the Poconos for more than 20 years and at one time not far from your town. In the shady area moss will grow in the screenings, in the sunny area, maybe not so much. First of all, what? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Quick question: in cases where the polymeric sand has left a white haze on the slate as you mentioned, what is the best way to remove the haze? Repair the flagstone. Maybe a dry concrete mix without the rocks in it? water@tramfloc.com; Fax 480-383-6895; Call us! You can do it. Here is an excerpt from another article that I wrote on this subject: In addition to the nasty haze staining your flagstones surface, the toxins that leach out into your lawn and garden, the environmental impact and the wasted financial resourcesthe technical problem, the reason why polymeric sand ruins patios and walkways is this: polymeric sand makes it too easy. Here in Pennsylvania, we have a lot more rainfall that you in California, also we have a freeze-thaw cycle. Anyway, after its gone just sweep in screeinings and be happy. I want to use it in a few places and if it had a light blue blume, that would work, too. If you wish to pressure wash a patio that has screenings for the joints, then you will have to sweep the material back into place after pressure washing. To lay your flagstone patio 1) set out yours tones like a puzzle, as you said. Screenings are crushed stone. This is basically putting an acrylic binder, liquid plastic, on top of the joints. To decrease the gravel carried away by any runoff, you can also add drainage trenches to your pea gravel installation. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. I figured this was due to the change in temperature? Others seem to crack every 4-5 years (near roof leader downspouts and a few other areas that take longer to dry out due to adjoining vegetation). Does lime really extend the life of the mortar joint? Polymeric sand is no good. We have to install the permeable pavers because it was required by the city. A pea gravel patio can be surprisingly difficult to keep maintained and repaired. Heres an article about removing and replacing the stone dust in-between your flagstone. Technisoil.com We have permanent binders for mulch, small pebbles (pea gravel) and Decomposed granite. Im not sure what was put between them at the time. I have pea gravel in the entire enclosure. Sweeping sand into the joints is one way to go about it.read the article, for other suggestions , Or, check out this great article here: https://www.devineescapes.com/flagstone-what-to-use-sand-cement-or-gravel/. see if it works. Shower your pavers to seal and harden the sand. Im going to take your advice and fill the gaps with granite sand. The stone settles, the joint cracks. It appears that they ripped 2x 6 in half so that they had 1.5x 2-3/4 material. Video of the Day. Thats not a problem for stone dust, whereas poly sand, in a shifty situation, will crack up and be a problem. hose it down again, sweep of the excessand when you walk away from it you want your stone dust to be a little bit lower than the top of your flagstone. Am thinking that doing this with decomposed granite is something that I could pay my fireman son to do in his off days. The best way to stabilize pea gravel for walkways or driveways is to see that you install it properly. Or you could look into planting some sort of ground cover like a creeping thyme or something. Leave the joints about a 1/8 1/4 shy of the tops of the flagstones when youre finished. I'm excited because I can do a number of project now. and it will still look natural. We decided on pea gravel as a less cost interim before we could afford brick or slate for our back patio area. Personally, my preference is to merely lay larger stone along the edge of the patiohave all of your edge flagstones, large. What do you recommend for replacing the grout? 2. Jeff. Were halfway through a DIY of flagstone on the side of our driveway. please reply with name of screening, where to buy and if method i am thinking is good. Good luck! But after reading your postings I am not sure what to do. Well I understand that the stones may be too small. Re-lay on stone dust/pathway fines/DG.they sell it in your area, but since I dont know your area I can not tell you the local name. You could a) hire a professional. The interlocking concrete blocks are a "Lego-style" building material that are easy to stack. And thank you for bringing me 1/2 to 3/4 stone joints. I would like to use something called a tumbled Colorado Red Stepper which is relatively small compared to other stones. I had been tempted to use polymeric sand, but plan not to use it now. Good luck with your flagstone patio and fire circle then . Great, youre welcome and I hope my advice is helpful. Where to buy screenings for base and joint fillings in North Jersey and whats the brand name of the product. So you found out about the ants! Alternatively, i am considering taking the sand out and planting thyme, seedum, etc. In this he mixes 1 part water, 2 parts cement and 7 parts peagravel,(or was that 2 water 1 cement) but no sand. Id use the saw, rather than a drill, because with the saw you can make it continuous, getting the whole thing to drain and would probably be fast to dobut I suppose you could drill one hole every 10 or something like that. Thanks! You could spray Acetic acid (vinegar) into the stone joints, deterring weed growth. First, you will measure the area and check you have the correct amount of binding solution. Or, just fill the gap with road base gravel. You will have to reapply at some point. This more or less turns your stone dust into polymeric sandand you know the risks involved with that. Inch and a half Ill pass.but if theres stones with 2 inches or more of sand, then I expect to see more problems down the road. Anyway, Id re-fit the stones. Then, Id fill the joints in with stone dust.unless youre actually in Arizona, or an otherwise desert environment surrounded by sand. If you are building a dry stone patio then no, I do not recommend using a concrete border. Every time it rains, screening from my joints splatters into my stone and patio furniture. Ideally a pea gravel patio should have 3" base rock and 1" actual pea gravel. And, if so, is there a way to do this so you dont see the border material for the finished project? Hose down. My contractor is out of business so I cant even get hold of him. I find cleaning up the solids simple with a disposable glove and plastic bag. It would compact into a pretty hard surface over time. and pour the slurry atop the screenings to get the moss to grow there. pea gravel really has no place in the landscape. Kristi. So first we plan to dig out and level the area, then lay down some coarse sand (tamp it) for drainage. And this picture right here, makes it even better. We thought of ripping the whole thing out and putting stamped concrete because we hate the gaps so much (weeds, ants, etc). You may be familiar with it as a stomach medicine. Remove organic matter from the driveway. Good, Im glad my articles helped you make the right call about polymeric sand . Loved your descriptions of patio aesthetics and materials. This system is somewhat self-healing. If it deteriorates, it can always be supplemented with the traditional fine sand to insure the strength and stability of the pavement. Would appreciate your advice. Through the washing, exposed some cracks between the pavers. 2. Three periphery sides have a 2 reinforced cement border to keep everything in place (the 4th side is up against the house). Pea gravel can be found in many kinds of landscapes and for various uses. Well, if the foundation and pitch all seem decent, then Id simply suggest removing the gator dust and replacing with stone dust. I have heard many hardscapers claim that its impossible to remove the polymeric sand haze. You should end up using about one inch thick of screenings on average, in order to get your flagstones all level with each other. Just curious OP how did adding the sand work out? Any ideas for adding curb appeal to this small house? Old timbers get new life as a decorative element in a cottage renovation. As such, my recommendation is clearstay with the decomposed granite! Thanks in advance for your comments. As far as separation along the cracks goesthis is a matter of technique, not of product. On the surface, no pun intended, it seems like a bullet proof option but for my flag stone patio Im going with the stone dust option! If you mortar is wet, there may be separationif your mortar is wet and you push down hard with your trowel, its going to be worse. Worms? I re-rake the kennels every few days to keep the coverage even. Id really have to see what you are working with, what the flagstone looks likeand then it would be a matter of looking into what is available in your area. Wait, wait, youre saying lots of stones move when stepped on. Effort PA. Southern Poconos. Concrete is your best bet. so my first thought was ants.I have never seen rodents leave sand piles atop a flagstone, so Im still leaning towards ants. A leaf blower can be used to remove debris, as the stones are heavy enough that they won't blow away. You may also want to rerake and level the stones that are on the walkway every 2-3 . Sorry, I was out of town and away from my computer when you posted this question. I am Gonna use the bluestone dust we got from the quarry. This project will be my first. Metal is more durable, but no matter what border you choose, it should be at least 1/2 inch above the ground outside the perimeter. Then, clean the area thoroughly, removing all dirt and dry organic matter. IDK what the limestone flour only material is you speak of, but you should be able to find proper screenings/grit/decomposed granite/8th inch minus/crusher run/etc in your area, under one name or another. Wish I could hire you to redo my patio in New Mexico! We have had successful installations at James Madison's Montpelier, the Arkansas Governors Mansion, Colonial Williamsburg and most recently at Thomas Jefferson's Monticello. Then I would like to avoid more polymeric sand, and use what you have described instead. Devin-Way to go! 2. Once it dries and hardens, the sand stays in place. If the pea gravel is used on a walkway or driveway, it can be enough to merely compress it to create stability. Even after several rains and power washing them, it is prevalent. Right now I am waiting for the contractor and his crew to show up to fix the problem. We are in Ontario, Canada. Polymeric sand makes people think that they can cheat, that they can get away with wider joints than they would otherwise. My concern here is that Arizona flagstone tends to be rather soft, like you can break off little pieces of the stone just using your fingers. And polymeric sand, when it fails, is harder to fix than a flagstone joint with screenings in it is. Google patio floor drain choose a decent looking one, read their instructions.Im available for consultations if you wish for individualized guidance on this project. It's pretty thick, so it's really helpful to have two people mix it. Not sure how far they are from you, but this material looks right. Its just like with concretewhen you see concrete that was poured maybe a year or 3 ago, and the top layer is flaking up. Pea gravel is highly desirable as it is versatile and cost-effective. I am located near Blakeslee and want to get quality screenings for my flagstone project. Garden center. I just put down some pea gravel around my fire pit area and now anytime someone walks on it the gravel gets into the mulch and all over. I live in the the finger lakes region of New York. 46 tons spread out over 4,000 square feet3/4 material, fairly rounded. Early in my flagstone patio career I used to try and keep the screenings in my flagstone joints as close to level with the stones as possible, but with foot traffic, wind and rain, the joints seem to naturally level off to around an average of one eighth of an inch shy of flush with the flagstone.. Does anything on this page (http://highlandls.com/products/) or this page (https://www.landscapeandgarden.com/gravel-decorative-rock) jump out to you as being the product you recommend? You can get rid of weeds easily by boiling up a pot of water in the pouring water on them. 1. harder to installmore complicated process. Thanks Im advance for your help. I have a full time job and a sheep farm and it is amazing how many people want free food just because I have a farm. Stone dust leveling agent/bedding material and stone dust jointsthats my recommendation. Well, its fairly easy, but you have to becarefulthe sand is mixed with a binder. I might get a bag and experiment with a small section, maybe at the start of the driveway. My process is described in this article: how to fill flagstone joints. What Is The Least Expensive Patio Material. And the answer is alwaysmake them flagstones fit tighter! There were two erosion spots that created 4 low spots. I had a flagstone patio laid 2 years ago. Here in NE Ohio, limestone dust is all that is readily available. Podcast 529: Members-only AftershowHow Good is Good Enough? With the powdery dry mix you really need to push down hard with the trowel (its so dry a mix that you will not cause a problem by pushing down, firmly, theres pretty much no water to push to the surface)so its easier to goof up that method. Not much sun on the walkway but Id imagine moss doesnt care that much about that. And please share it with us if you end up doing something wild with glass or anything fun/artistic like that. Polymeric sand is sand with an acrylic binder added. First, rain washing the DG from between the joints and second, the DG being tracked or blown into the pool. Wanted advice for DIY backyard basketball court of size 42 feet wide and 28 feet long. Most of my jobs are in Pennsylvania. So glad I found your blog, almost as much as finding a buried 1220 flagstone patio in our backyard! And I also offer DIY phone consultations, in case my articles are not enough to help you with your flagstone questions. This second method doesnt clean up quite as easily as the powdery-dry method. It is an old flagstone patio and the morter is coming out at between the stones. Polyurethane coatings. Great article Devin, We have large slabs of Indiana ledge rock some as big as 30 sf and 4 inch thick around our pool laid with 1/4 inch tolerance laid on sand with sand between the stones sme have shift and opened gaps and tilted Its impossible to fix without big machines so I am planning just to stabilize it Screenings the best? EDIT: Ive also addressed this question in a previous blog post here: https://www.devineescapes.com/flagstone-repair-explained/. Red stone dust will be harder to find, and will cost more. You will likely need to repeat applying a binder every 6 to 8 years. I will give the dirt/stone dust mix a try next time it washes out. Another method is to simply pour boiling water on the unwanted plants. ", Here is a link that might be useful: Stabilizer Solution. I did not want to mention this optionbecause I do not like it. Wait till the joint is somewhat damp, but not soaking and the fill with mortar. Bagged stuff, like youd add to mortar? We just put in a flagstone patio using decomposed granite in between the stones. I appreciate your guidance. Some areas are shaded by tress, and some by the house, which I think contributes to algae growth. Anyway, I would like some advice on how you achieve such tight joints. Ive tried my best and I hope this helpseither helps you to confidently tackle the projector helps you to decide to just hire a good mason. If I keep the joints tight will the material bind enough to keep water from percolating into ground? Allow the stone duts to dry and bond then come back use a non-shrinking exterior grout bewteen the flagstones..sound good?.Thanks for any input, Frank. This requires re-raking.The four dog kennels are relatively easy to maintain. Take a look at some of the polymer sealers out there, Gator Dust, by Alliance, works with patio installs. Also, it is unnecessary. I havent filled yet because i am still adding onto it. Sorry, this website is all about natural stone. This is a BAD thing. Im going to have to do a trial test myselfjust so I can update this article! Does work pretty well and doesn't foam up if the stone is dusty or the ground is damp like the Gravel Lok product does. Thank you for taking the time to post this for the world to see. Not that it would prove anything conclusively, you just got me curious. If using sand rather than stone dust, then you should try and keep the sand depth to an inch or so. Stone would have to be of appropriate thickness, outdoor adhesives/exterior thinset used for the ornaments. Sounds like a lot of work and I have no place to dump the pea gravel. The joints average about 4-5 inches (way higher than your recommendation) and its too late to reduce the joint spacing, since they have already been laid. I like this idea but they are quite an expensive solution to fix this $32 load of gravel 2. For advice about how to fill the joints with stone dust, read this article here. These surfaces are stable. Yes I have run experiments oin differenat areas of the patio and have used different amts of water with the same results. Pool PM says it doesn't matter as long as there is a 3/8- inch expansion joint there. However, if you are telling me that you have 6 of compacted road base type gravel in place, and your flagstones are on top of that, with some sand as the leveling agent..then idk, but as a professional who cant afford to have my reputation messed withId take those flagstones back up and lay in screenings. But when you want your walkways to stay in place, the round and easily moveable shape of pea gravel could be a problem. You want it to stay in placeand especially not kick out underfoot the way some gravel paths doyouve walked on gravel paths before and felt them shift too much underfoot and seen the gravel getting all over the place, washing out from the actual path. So, I gave up on that. Because the attractiveness of the pea-gravel surface is lessened by epoxy resin or polyurethane coatings, we found the best method was (1) above. Sorry. Compare. Then, pour about three inches of pea gravel on top of this base layer. I am not wedded to those tumbled red steppers. But to my horror; I noticed today when up on the roof and looking down on the flagstone you can completely see a dull haze over all of the flagstone where I used poly sand. But that was 8 deep of crushed gravel, not just a 1/2 joint. Do a search for how to propagate moss. The slab is about four inches thick so concrete ran under the wood dividers and there is an irregular floor to my trenches. Widen the cracks. It would drain away but I assume some of it may get tracked into the pool. Awesome, youre welcome and Im glad to help. You can also sprinkle cement over gravel to reduce sliding and shifting. The PO had installed pea gravel in the planting beds; in some areas it was more than 4 inches deep--I hated it. Thanks. Youre welcome Rob, Im happy I could be helpful . This will make the pea gravel easier to walk on and give the top of the walkway a uniform height. Some of the stones youre showing me look a bit on the small side. This mix is damp enough that it clumps together without needing to be smooshed together with the trowelbut just barely: https://www.devineescapes.com/replacing-the-cement-between-flagstones/. The sales guy who sold the glue mess to the general contractor (yes, I subbed, once upon a time!) in the cracks thinking the soil and plants will help hold the stones in place. We just moved in a year ago. I hope not. It will crack. Stiffin it up a bit so it's not so loose. Remove pea gravel and start over. Thanks for saving me from the poly sand! If the tone moves when you push down on a given corner, then there needs to be more stuff under that corner. I have been struggling to find information on Breeze vs Polymeric Sand to put in the 1 grout lines. Re-read the article please Actually, Ill go back and edit, put a few words in bold and make it a bit more clear. 87880917 4 yr. ago. I have 1/4 minus which I used for the bed. Id prefer to avoid power tools and stick with as much a natural look as possible. Ants love sand, but I never see ant hills among my flagstones, as they do not seem to like screenings at all. I use approximately an inch or so of stone dust as the leveling agent. Thank you for the great tip! (Note: I am not a professional, but love to DYI landscape). We probably have a dozen small ant hills to show as proof- lol. 903 landscape supply is the place: https://www.903inc.com/. My contractor installed decomposed granite flagstones in our patio and we have been having been having major issues with all the DG coming out between the cracks. Weed 2007, FWIW, I would forget the pebble idea for a dog run. I first started seeing this stuff about fifteen years ago. A gap that small can be left open. I remember reading about psyllium husks being used as a stabilizer, back in like 2009 or 2010, so major omission, I suppose, that I still havent studied the material hands-on. So..what good shall it do me, if this unfortunately rigid and stable joint is natural, not synthetic? Maybe %90. I will check out your website further. 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